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Low Carb Diets

So-called low carb diets are becoming more and more popular in the
quest to fight the battle of the bulge. But how effective are these diets, and
more importantly, how safe? Join our panel of experts for a discussion of
the pros and cons of this controversial weight-loss method.


CHARLENE MILLS: I'm CHARLENE MILLS. Welcome to our webcast. One
in five Americans is overweight. Researchers with the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention say that the obesity epidemic is now a major public
health concern. Many people try low carb diets to try to beat the battle of
the bulge, but how effective are these popular diets, and more importantly,
how safe? During this webcast we'll go over some of the pros and cons of
this controversial weight loss method.

Joining me to discuss this issue is SABRINA FALLER. She's a registered
dietitian and a Senior Clinical Nutritionist at New York University Medical
Center. Thanks for joining us Sabrina.

SABRINA FALLER: I'm happy to be here.

CHARLENE MILLS: Also here, Lori Wyble. She's a registered dietitian at
New York Presbyterian Hospital in New York City. Lori, thank you.

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: Thank you Charlene.

CHARLENE MILLS: You know, we hear the word carbohydrate a lot. It's on
the back of most foods. A lot of people, I fear, do not know exactly what a
carbohydrate is and what it means for your body. So, let's define it. What is
a carbohydrate?

SABRINA FALLER: A carbohydrate is one of the major nutrients that our
bodies use to provide energy. We know of carbohydrates. Generally, we
think of them as starches like potatoes, and bread and past. But,
carbohydrates are also vegetables, fruits, legumes, and we want them to
be a greater percentage of our diet because that's the major fuel that our
body uses to function.

CHARLENE MILLS: And it breaks down.

SABRINA FALLER: Carbohydrates break down in your body. Finally, after
they go through all their breakdown, they wind up as sugar, known as
glucose, in your blood. That's the very basic unit of which a carbohydrate
is made.

CHARLENE MILLS: Sure. Lori, we have two different types, simple and
complex. Define simple for me. What is a simple carbohydrate?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: A simple carbohydrate is basically something
that's found in a sweet food. It would be found in regular soda, jam, jelly,
table sugar. Basically, when you eat something that has simple
carbohydrate in it, it breaks down rapidly into sugar. Your blood sugar is
elevated quite quickly after eating the food.

CHARLENE MILLS: Define complex. What is that?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: The basic difference between a complex and a
simple is that a complex carbohydrate is a whole bunch of simples
hooked together in a chain. When you eat something, which is a complex
carbohydrate, which would be found in rice, bread, past, potatoes, it will
break down to sugar, but it takes longer than the simple.

CHARLENE MILLS: That would be refined. Is that correct?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: Right. Now, there are two different kinds of
complex. There is refined, and there is unrefined.

CHARLENE MILLS: Please define refined?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: Refined is basically something that's been
processed. I usually call it a white carbohydrate. Again, white pasta or
white bread. Unrefined has not been processed. It has more fiber in it. The
more unrefined a carbohydrate is, the longer it takes to break down into
sugar. Because of the fiber, it slows it down. When you eat an unrefined, it
turns to sugar more slowly, so your blood sugar goes up much more
slowly versus the complex refined, which it goes up more quickly, versus
the simple, which it goes up very quickly.

CHARLENE MILLS: Sabrina, low carb diets are very popular these days.
There are so many books. There are so many different anecdotes out
there about what you should eat/not eat. What's the rationale behind a low
carb diet?

SABRINA FALLER: It's a rationale that I think varies depending on the
author of the book. I think when someone chooses or goes on a low carb
diet, what they are doing is cutting out almost an entire food group. Any
time you do that, you're going to be cutting out calories, so you tend to
lose weight. Carbohydrates also hold water, so when you drop a lot of
those carbohydrates out of your diet, you're going to start to lose water out
of your body quickly. Our bodies are made up of mostly water, so when
you start losing that water that the carbohydrate holds onto, you lose
weight. And you think, "I'm losing weight." Well, what does that weight
consist of? Is it fat? Is it protein? Is it water?

CHARLENE MILLS: What are you losing?

SABRINA FALLER: Initially, you're losing water. Then maybe over time, if
you're losing numbers of pounds, some fat. Then, what I find very scary,
you're going to start losing protein. You're body wants to spare
carbohydrate because it's the fuel it needs to support your brain and your
muscles. So, you'll start breaking down protein. Guess what's made of
protein? Your heart and your muscles.

I think both Lori and I would agree that the healthiest and best diet is a
balanced diet. You don't want to cut out any total food group.

CHARLENE MILLS: Lori, there are so many people who are involved in
low carb diets. They are losing weight. You see them all over the
television and magazine ads. How healthy are they?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: My concern is more on the long-term. I don't
really have a problem with somebody following a lower carbohydrate diet
for a few weeks. That can actually get some momentum going. Like
Sabrina said, you lose a lot of water. But then you have to go into a
balanced diet. I recommend a diet that has at least 50% carbohydrate. My
concern is that long-term, if you omit fruits, vegetables, whole grains,
you're omitting vitamins, minerals, fiber, cancer fighting phytochemicals.
You're setting yourself up for a disease in the long run. So long run, I think
they're much more dangerous.

CHARLENE MILLS: Sure. So you're saying people can have a problem
sustaining it also?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: They're also very difficult diets to be on. Most
peoples' favorite foods are some kind of carbohydrate, whether it's pasta,
bagels, pretzels or whatever. Now you're on a diet that excludes all of your
favorite foods. You might be able to do it for a few days or maybe a few
weeks at most, but most people end up binging or even gaining more
weight because you feel so deprived.

It also alters some of your brain chemicals. When you seriously cut out
carbohydrates, you alter your brain chemicals, and you are really going to
crave carbohydrates. It's a difficult thing, and there is no need to do it.

SABRINA FALLER: I totally agree with her. I would also like to bring out the
point that low carbohydrate is sort of a relative term, unless you're looking
at the numbers in the books. For one person, high carbohydrate might be
three cups of pasta. So, low carbohydrate to them might be cutting that
portion in half. What we're discussing is really moderate, intelligent
portions. So, instead of having an extra large thing of French fries, have a
small one, or a baked potato. The portion size is really an issue with
carbohydrate. It's easy to eat a lot of them.

CHARLENE MILLS: How do you know when it's getting dangerous? You
have some people who are on these low carb diets for a long period of
time. How do you know when you're entering that danger zone?

SABRINA FALLER: There are signs if you're going to enter something
called ketosis. Ketosis happens when your body says, "Uh oh, I'm running
out of fuel." So it goes to an alternate source for fuel. No carbohydrate for
fuel. It's going to start breaking down fat and forming something called the
ketone body. Your breath gets fruity and it doesn't smell good. Some
people get a coating on their tongue. Some people may get slightly
confused. If it accelerates, then you can really be into trouble because the
whole acid-based balance in your body goes off.

CHARLENE MILLS: Define for our viewers what a ketone is.

SABRINA FALLER: A ketone is a byproduct of breaking down fat for
energy. It's the only other source that your brain can use for fuel. It's like if
you run out of gas for your car, what is the last resort thing you can use?
Your body is freaking out a bit, saying, "Okay, let's make those ketones
so we can at least use our brain to have our bodies function."

CHARLENE MILLS: Lori, a lot of people with a lot of diets put the weight
back on after they give up on it. Is that the case also with low carb diets?
Do they put the weight back on after they stop?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: I would say that they do. There was a major study
done. I believe it was the National Weight Control Registry. They
interviewed over 3,000 people. The purpose of the study was to find out
who maintained their weight loss. Out of those people who did, how did
they keep the weight off. They found out that the majority of people
followed a balanced type of diet. I think they averaged about 1,400 to
1,500 calories. Very few of the people followed low carbohydrate types of
diets. Pretty much, they all exercised. I think that what that's showing us is
the way you keep the weight off is to eat a healthy, balanced diet where
you're not depriving yourself and omitting food groups, exercise and cut
the calories down. Cut down your portions.

The bottom line is calories. Carbs aren't the bad guys. Portion sizes are.
When you eat an eight-ounce muffin, a jumbo muffin that we see here in
New York a lot, it's 800 calories. A jumbo bagel is 400 or 500 calories.

CHARLENE MILLS: Don't put butter or anything else on it.

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: Forget the butter and the cream cheese. Even a
tuna salad sandwich can be 700 calories. A slice of pizza is 500. So, it's
not the carbs that are the bad guys, it's the amount of food we're
consuming. We're eating way too much food.

CHARLENE MILLS: But some people do well on low carb diets. They get
involved with the food pyramid.

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: Lower. I believe that. I don't think people have to
be on real low carbohydrate diets. I think maybe lower. Where the food
pyramid is recommending about 55% to 60% of calories coming from
carbs, some people might do better on 40%. Does that mean we need to
go as far as some of the diets recommend, to 20%? Do we need to go
into ketosis? No. It can be dangerous. There is no need to do it. If you're
having a hard time losing weight on the standard higher carbohydrate, cut it
a little bit. But more importantly, watch your portion sizes and exercise.
You should be able to lose the weight.

SABRINA FALLER: Also, some of the low carb, high protein diets, what
they advocate is high fat; high saturated fat. Cheese and meat and butter.
People say, "Oh, I'm so happy I can eat all of this and I'm losing weight."
Yes, because you're cutting out the food group. But, what is it doing to
your arteries? That's what I think both Lori and I find pretty scary. It's not just
low carb, but they're eating high fat and high saturated fat.

I think what we're both advocating is to just balance; not a lot of fat, not a lot
of saturated fat, not a lot of carbohydrate. Just balanced meals.

CHARLENE MILLS: Are there certain people who should just flat-out stay
away from low carb diets? People with certain types of illnesses, I
assume? Say diabetics?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: No.

CHARLENE MILLS: What about people with heart disease who would
consume a lot of these meats.

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: As Sabrina said, I think more of the concern is the
kinds of fats that they're eating. If somebody with heart disease is having a
little more fat, but it's in the form of an olive oil or something unsaturated,
I'm not really concerned with that. I'm more concerned with somebody who
has heart disease who is loading up on saturated fats, on cheese and ice
cream and bacon and eggs. That's more of a concern for me.

CHARLENE MILLS: You mentioned one study. But, have there been
enough studies, Lori, about low carb diets?

LORI WYBLE, RD, CDE: That's a problem. I have not read any long-term
studies that would show what could happen to somebody if they were on a
very low carb, high fat diet for many years. I don't believe there have been
any studies done. We know short-term that you can lose weight. But the
question is, what happens if you're on this diet for life and you're omitting
your fruits and vegetables and whole grains? Is that going to affect your
health? We don't know.

It would seem that it would. We do not have studies to show that.
Therefore, I would be very leary of recommending somebody follow a real
low carb, high fat diet.

CHARLENE MILLS: Sabrina, do you think that there should be more
studies, being that millions of people are doing it anyway?

SABRINA FALLER: This is an interesting point, and I'm treading on thin ice
here. What I would say is that one of the reasons there is not a lot of
studies is because it's hard to define the variables. Another reason is that
we know by common sense and by a whole host of scientific literature that
eating a high saturated fat diet and cutting out carbs for a long time is
dangerous for your health. I think one of the reasons there aren't a lot of
studies is because it's unethical.

For me to say, "Charlene, go have some cream and some butter and
cheese and don't eat this. Eat that. Eat that. You'll lose weight." I'm being
unethical. I may be making some money, but I'm not telling you what's best
for your health. I don't really think you could get someone to fund a study
to do that if you're telling people to do something that you really know is
not good for them.

CHARLENE MILLS: I guess the bottom line is that people should get a
dietitian or check with their doctor before doing any kind of weight loss
program.

[GENERAL AGREEMENT]

CHARLENE MILLS: That should be the take home message. Check with
your doctor, dietitian or nutritionist – there are many of them out there –
before getting involved with any diet program.

Thank you for tuning into our webcast. I'm CHARLENE MILLS.
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